What about FOAF?

Hi everybody,

At the moment SIOC is maturing very fast, which is good.

SIOC uses FOAF (friend of a friend) to describe persons on the
internet. Unfortunately the FOAF-specification seems to have been
stuck in version 0.1 http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/ with many terms
categorized as 'unstable'. The mailinglist has no activity, about a
month ago I sent some suggestions for FOAF, but received no reply.

At this moment I am unable to tell if there is anybody working on
FOAF, but looking at the state of the website http://www.foaf-project.org/
it seems that FOAF is dead.

With more and more implementations of SIOC currently being developed
many of them will also include an implementation of FOAF of which the
specification is far from finished and has quite a number of
problems.

I think it would be good if some people started working on a new
revision of the FOAF-specification. I would like to help with that,
but I don't really know where to start.

Kind regards,

John Hoogstrate

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What about FOAF?

Hi,

> (...) The mailinglist has no activity, about a
> month ago I sent some suggestions for FOAF, but received no reply.

What mailing list you are using? Because from a few months ago the
activity was moved from the old [1] to a new mailing list [2]; try in
this one.

> At this moment I am unable to tell if there is anybody working on
> FOAF, but looking at the state of the website http://www.foaf-project.org/
> it seems that FOAF is dead.

No, FOAF is more alive than ever, there are a lot of people working in
FOAF-based projects. But with respect to the Web I agree totally, it
needs some love.

Regards,

[1] http://rdfweb.org/mailman/listinfo/rdfweb-dev
[2] http://lists.foaf-project.org/mailman/listinfo/foaf-dev

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What about FOAF?

CCing this reply to FOAF-Dev as well.

On 5/20/07, Sergio Fernández wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> > (...) The mailinglist has no activity, about a
> > month ago I sent some suggestions for FOAF, but received no reply.
>
> What mailing list you are using? Because from a few months ago the
> activity was moved from the old [1] to a new mailing list [2]; try in
> this one.
>
> > At this moment I am unable to tell if there is anybody working on
> > FOAF, but looking at the state of the website http://www.foaf-project.org/
> > it seems that FOAF is dead.
>
> No, FOAF is more alive than ever, there are a lot of people working in
> FOAF-based projects. But with respect to the Web I agree totally, it
> needs some love.
>
> Regards,
>
> [1] http://rdfweb.org/mailman/listinfo/rdfweb-dev
> [2] http://lists.foaf-project.org/mailman/listinfo/foaf-dev
>
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> __ ___ _ _
> \ \ / (_) |_(_)___ _ _ Sergio Fernández
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> \_/\_/ |_|_\_\_\___|_| Web: http://www.wikier.org/
>
>
> >
>

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What about FOAF?

Sending a copy to FOAF-Dev list as well. Feel free to CC discussions
to SIOC-Dev - as you mentioned before SIOC and FOAF work together and
we are interested to learn about any new developments in this area.

On 5/20/07, John Hoogstrate wrote:
>
> Hi everybody,
>
> At the moment SIOC is maturing very fast, which is good.
>
> SIOC uses FOAF (friend of a friend) to describe persons on the
> internet. Unfortunately the FOAF-specification seems to have been
> stuck in version 0.1 http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/ with many terms
> categorized as 'unstable'. The mailinglist has no activity, about a
> month ago I sent some suggestions for FOAF, but received no reply.
>
> At this moment I am unable to tell if there is anybody working on
> FOAF, but looking at the state of the website http://www.foaf-project.org/
> it seems that FOAF is dead.
>
> With more and more implementations of SIOC currently being developed
> many of them will also include an implementation of FOAF of which the
> specification is far from finished and has quite a number of
> problems.
>
> I think it would be good if some people started working on a new
> revision of the FOAF-specification. I would like to help with that,
> but I don't really know where to start.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> John Hoogstrate
>
>
> >
>

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What about FOAF?

Hi John,

It may be misleading to look at the FOAF namespace "version number"
(0.1) as an indication of FOAF not being developed though. Look at the
FOAF vocabulary specification [1] and you will see that it is at the
revision 1.122, last changed on 2007-01-14.

Like you said there are things that may indicate that FOAF development
is staled, e.g., "0.1" in the FOAF namespace, a quite static state of
http://foaf-project.org or the "unstable" / "testing" state of FOAF
terms, but the real indication of the popularity of a vocabulary is
how frequently is it and its terms used.

Developers from FOAF-Dev should be able to tell more, as well as tell
how you can help.

[1] http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/

Uldis

[ http://captsolo.net/info/ ]

On 5/20/07, Uldis Bojars wrote:
> Sending a copy to FOAF-Dev list as well. Feel free to CC discussions
> to SIOC-Dev - as you mentioned before SIOC and FOAF work together and
> we are interested to learn about any new developments in this area.
>
> On 5/20/07, John Hoogstrate wrote:
> >
> > Hi everybody,
> >
> > At the moment SIOC is maturing very fast, which is good.
> >
> > SIOC uses FOAF (friend of a friend) to describe persons on the
> > internet. Unfortunately the FOAF-specification seems to have been
> > stuck in version 0.1 http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/ with many terms
> > categorized as 'unstable'. The mailinglist has no activity, about a
> > month ago I sent some suggestions for FOAF, but received no reply.
> >
> > At this moment I am unable to tell if there is anybody working on
> > FOAF, but looking at the state of the website http://www.foaf-project.org/
> > it seems that FOAF is dead.
> >
> > With more and more implementations of SIOC currently being developed
> > many of them will also include an implementation of FOAF of which the
> > specification is far from finished and has quite a number of
> > problems.
> >
> > I think it would be good if some people started working on a new
> > revision of the FOAF-specification. I would like to help with that,
> > but I don't really know where to start.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > John Hoogstrate
> >
> >
> > > >
> >
>

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What about FOAF?

There is activity on the foaf-list recently again:
http://lists.foaf-project.org/pipermail/foaf-dev/

I suggest you contact them directly.

Axel

John Hoogstrate wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> At the moment SIOC is maturing very fast, which is good.
>
> SIOC uses FOAF (friend of a friend) to describe persons on the
> internet. Unfortunately the FOAF-specification seems to have been
> stuck in version 0.1 http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/ with many terms
> categorized as 'unstable'. The mailinglist has no activity, about a
> month ago I sent some suggestions for FOAF, but received no reply.
>
> At this moment I am unable to tell if there is anybody working on
> FOAF, but looking at the state of the website http://www.foaf-project.org/
> it seems that FOAF is dead.
>
> With more and more implementations of SIOC currently being developed
> many of them will also include an implementation of FOAF of which the
> specification is far from finished and has quite a number of
> problems.
>
> I think it would be good if some people started working on a new
> revision of the FOAF-specification. I would like to help with that,
> but I don't really know where to start.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> John Hoogstrate
>
>
> >
>

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