sioc:User should be sioc:Persona

2007, March 21 - 14:15 — bblfish

User is close to abuser. It's a nasty term.

Much better would be to speak of Persona, which is related to the
latin for Mask.

see the section on Persona in http://webspace.ship.edu/cgboer/jung.html

This would then make for a much nicer relation to foaf:Person.

Henry

Home page: http://bblfish.net/
Sun Blog: http://blogs.sun.com/bblfish/
Foaf name: http://bblfish.net/people/henry/card#me

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2007, April 2 - 09:54 — Wikier

sioc:User should be sioc:Persona

> Much better would be to speak of Persona, which is related to the
> latin for Mask.
>
> (...)
>
> This would then make for a much nicer relation to foaf:Person.

Although I like the term (I'm spanish), I think it would be a bad
decision because foaf:Person and sioc:User has a relationship of
one-to-more (a person could has many accounts [1]).

Regards,

[1] http://sioc-project.org/node/158

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2007, April 2 - 09:54 — Dan Brickley

sioc:User should be sioc:Persona

I'm not too sure. FOAF Person is in someways deployed as personas, ... in that I may well have several foaf-based profiles around, which use foaf:Person to describe aspects of me, ... but with sufficient vagueness that the identities can't be inferred to be the same.

Dan

On 21/03/07, Henry Story <henry.story@gmail.com> wrote:

User is close to abuser. It's a nasty term.

Much better would be to speak of Persona, which is related to the
latin for Mask.

see the section on Persona in
http://webspace.ship.edu/cgboer/jung.html

This would then make for a much nicer relation to foaf:Person.

Henry

Home page: http://bblfish.net/
Sun Blog:
http://blogs.sun.com/bblfish/
Foaf name: http://bblfish.net/people/henry/card#me

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2007, April 2 - 09:54 — bblfish

sioc:User should be sioc:Persona

I had not thought of foaf:Person that way. It makes sense. I was
thinking of it as pointing more to a real physical human person. So
that whenever one was justified in merging 2 foaf:Persons one could...
If so then sioc:Persona would still be open.

Now I know better...

Henry

On 21 Mar 2007, at 15:34, Dan Brickley wrote:

>
> I'm not too sure. FOAF Person is in someways deployed as
> personas, ... in that I may well have several foaf-based profiles
> around, which use foaf:Person to describe aspects of me, ... but
> with sufficient vagueness that the identities can't be inferred to
> be the same.
>
> Dan
>
> On 21/03/07, Henry Story wrote:
> User is close to abuser. It's a nasty term.
>
> Much better would be to speak of Persona, which is related to the
> latin for Mask.
>
> see the section on Persona in http://webspace.ship.edu/cgboer/
> jung.html
>
> This would then make for a much nicer relation to foaf:Person.
>
> Henry
>
> Home page: http://bblfish.net/
> Sun Blog: http://blogs.sun.com/bblfish/
> Foaf name: http://bblfish.net/people/henry/card#me
>

2007, April 2 - 09:54 — CaptSolo

sioc:User should be sioc:Persona

On 3/21/07, Henry Story wrote:
>
> I had not thought of foaf:Person that way. It makes sense. I was
> thinking of it as pointing more to a real physical human person. So
> that whenever one was justified in merging 2 foaf:Persons one could...
> If so then sioc:Persona would still be open.

We tried to avoid to situations when SIOC classes and properties can
be confused with those from other ontologies.

If there was a sioc:Persona and foaf:Person this can create confusion
to some and make it harder to distinguish which one is meant. But
another reason not to change sioc:User now is that it is already used
quite a lot (we could change sioc:Community because it is not widely
used yet) and to change the class name now we'd need to keep the old
name and do conversion over time.

A simpler way is to change descriptions of SIOC terms. Most of the
meaning (e.g., if a Post must have a Forum) and the patterns of term
usage come from humans interpreting [text] descriptions of classes and
properties. Those are also easier to change.

All are welcome to look at the descriptions currently associated with
all the terms and come up with a better way to describe them.

P.S. There was an idea to rename sioc:User to a sioc:UserAccount, but
we decided against it for the same reason described above - that this
class is already in use.

Uldis

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