I dont know anything about John Hagee (I dont watch TV), and as for Chuck Missler, I never listened to him. In time. 24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. Earthly consequences can be different for levels of sin but not in Gods eyes. "I took a polygraph." The things I did before coming to Christ came naturally and I had no problem doing them. Lusting, stealing, cursing, etc. Which is typical of todays modern quick moving world! But on February 22 of that year, the case went to Judge Tim Bailey, a member of a powerful conservative family; his father, Patrick, founded the Pompano Beach Republican Club, and both father and son had chaired Broward's Judicial Nominating Commission. Many get off drugs w/o evangelical christianity, many turn themselves around from alcohol or gambling or other vices w/o evangelical christianity. Pride is something that could be seen from his pulpit for many years now. Not me. I think that older men with less testosterone can dodge these bullets. I believe with God all things are possible. Coy will have to pay for that at the judgment. Its always awful, no matter the denomination or the size of the congregation. 87 . _____________________________________________________________________ Andy, you are completely wrong with this! We need to have discernment these days otherwise many shall be deceived. Coy certainly paid a heavy price for his infidelity: His family has broken to pieces, and his chapels packed with thousands of adoring fans have been replaced with a half-full nightclub in Boca. Statistics. Evidently the vast reach doesnt include responsibility to inform all those reached. Be careful, any of us could be next thats true. I know I personally struggle with being physically attractive enough for my husbands desires. But then, in April 2014, he resigned in disgrace after admitting to multiple affairs and a pornography addiction. Michael, I do believe weve had this discussion in the past in much detail, so no point in rehashing. Your cognitive dissonance is kicking in. For its His word that does not come back void, but it shall accomplish the purpose for which He sends it!. {P} , , , - , , , . etc. Lust mixed with selfishness is one of the more toxic cocktails we can create. Normally Chuck would have not wasted this asset unless what Coy did was to outrageous to cover up. If he had been going around dipping his quill in several other inkwells and coming back to sis for access you get the picture, I would personally go over to him and beat him up and help toss his butt out of the house. So, what about babylons Dread is his theology from Homer Simpson? Lorenzo, You have an obsessive form of projection, as evidenced by your post here, from your viewing of pornography and thinking of other women while youre being intimate with your wife. A few of the jurors turned in their seats to stare at Crist as his daughter furiously mouthed and signed the words. Hes too plugged in there. Just tired of picking up the pieces of the wreckage. The world will know you by your love for one another Lets starting loving a little more and get back to our Fathers business. Do we expose a fraud or recover a brother? 20 Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. With his tale of drug addiction and strip clubs, the newly redeemed Coy was a perfect fit for Calvary's edgier message. His name was Herod. I found it accidentally on Google. You made a freshman mistake. Might I ask, other than providing a platform for the information about what has happened with Bob Coy to be disseminated, what are you hoping will be accomplished (as a minister of the gospel yourself) will be accomplished by publishing this information? Sordid details. Were the same sinners as before. Published November 28, 2014. Several people who witnessed the accident immediately ran to assist the victims. 5. Just wanted to validate jlos welcome. Right, he didnt believe his own Bible studies. Embrace him. Also keep in mind that many here have something in common and that is bad experiences with churches and pastors, while some of us remain to try and minister and fellowship, as well as listen and empathize, with those hurts. Sure would make the shame easier to bear.. Lets pray for him , his wife and his children until they are healed and restored and he is forgiven by The Lord , if not already ! You my friend constantly bring him up. 8 The nursing child shall play over the hole of the cobra, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the adders den. I learned a long time ago that the first look is not sin its just temptation. 557 views, 6 likes, 2 loves, 0 comments, 7 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from Calvary Chapel Tustin Women's Ministry: ARE YOU COMING? Coy's church won the suit plus $81,000 in damages and fees and the city, which organized the event, stopped offering sponsorships out of concern that hate groups might take advantage of the ruling. Great article to consider: http://touch.sun-sentinel.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-79853971/, The only ones that are monogamous are the ones who have no choice because theyre either too old, too fat or too ugly or too poor. Then non believers wonder why Christians are the only ones to kill their wounded. Others have met as well so we are a bit of a family although not admired by all. But the Bible tells us to care about both. 22:20), The Lord Jesus Christ commands all believers to proclaim the gospel throughout the world and to make disciples of all nations. 2y; View 3 more comments . In the Coy case, though, Payne never made that kind of headway. Michael isnt a Calvanist. That is a myth that needs to be wiped out. On April 3, 2014, Coy resigned as Senior Pastor of Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale, after admitting to committing adultery and having an addiction to pornography. So now answer the question! His congregation will continue to thrive and fight the good fight of faith. If you believe that the posting of any material infringes your copyright, be sure to contact us through the contact form and your material will be removed! I have absolutely no sympathy for the adulterer. She confirmed the story in stomach-churning detail. I havent brought up Luther once I very rarely quote him. Brian is extensively involved in missions and church planting around the world. In fact in scripture the Lamb IS the Lion because of symbolism. 10:13) Every man needs accountability. Talk about distractions in worship! Interesting point and something Brodersen/CCCM and Smiths/TWFT are battling overthe IP of Chuck Smith and if his work was his or the property of CCCM. I think this is your passage HUGH. Well said. I hope you reconsider your life and realize there is a more excellent way to live which God wants to give you. He left his youth Pastor to become Pastor. He had no reason to suspect that Jake would be an alcoholic. He is currently producing the debut album for his band The 288's, a God-inspired Hip Hop/R&B group that combines soul-baring lyricism with an electric innovative sound, breaking from the norm and reaching all cultures & ages (save senior citizens). That body recommends candidates for higher legal office to the governor. They have arrived at those conclusions with serious thought, study, prayer, and reliance on guidance from the Spirit of God and His scripture. Sharon, who has been given the news that she has chronic kidney illness, is content to spend the rest of her days with her husband, her children, and the profession she adores. everybody is broken by stuff like this. At least youre good for keeping a thread alive, thats got to be worth something in the next life. Were there other abuse claims against Coy during the nearly three decades he controlled Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale? As New Times revealed in an investigation published Tuesday, former Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale Pastor Bob Coy who once led the largest megachurch in Florida was accused in 2015 of. really? Surely nobody thinks they just found out at the Sunday afternoon meeting. And his sermons have been the same blame the Christian, God is blameless.. stop whining sermons.. for what , 20 years? Jesus builds a church,not a pastor. Is the IRS coming to take them to jail? When Sharon found out that she would be receiving a kidney, it was only natural for her to believe that this was a reason for her and her family to throw a party. Which is the essence of the lordship salvation false gospel. I would imagine Bob is fine with that it allows him to retain leverage for a future power-play if needed. MLD, I would love to meet you someday, as you are the only man I have heard of who does not struggle with this in some way. It is a pretty open forum with some troubled and offensive types, but also many who have learned through experience to get things into perspective. The point is that sin is a type of adultery against God, if we are the bride of Christ, lying, lust cheating or anything that puts something in front of Christ is an adultery because it violates that covenant. Being estranged from God and condemned by our sinfulness, our salvation is wholly dependent upon the work of Gods free grace. I could.just throw up from the intentions of the church, surely the Spirit of God is more grieved in this than the sanctification process that may be happening in my home church. Kassanndra Cantrell a lady from Tacoma, Washington, disappeared in 2020 without leaving behind much evidence. I understand your hearts pain and I presume you are a single young woman so the thought of a man or woman in the ministry falling is very disheartening to say the least. Im learning all about a day in the life of MLD. Im Glad God is in charge and not most Christians, I guess most of us would not have let Peter preach at pentacost so soon after denying Christ! It would be good to listen to her insight. As a matter of fact is your life faultless?..I know mine isnt yet we strive for wholeness in Him. Get over yourself. Read broadly from people who have some form of biblical training. No one is denying that grace, forgiveness, and redemption are available to him and all of us who are sinners by birth and by choicebut lets focus on the wounded before the wounder. My moneys on Michaeland everything Im hearing from my sources confirms it. "We need to stop him. Jesus really dropped the ball. The case was assigned to a detective and although police advised the victim that there does not seem to be a statute of limitations concerning the alleged crime, the girl reportedly did not cooperate in terms of pursuing the matter further. a new church down the street] Against the dysfunctions of the church [ Why cant we all just get along? The best article Ive read on the subject thus far! "They do what they feel is right based on the evidence they have.". I have been told my counselors, pastors, and friends to let it go because God has forgiven me. You have left the building. Some of course did return volleys in kind, and that is unfortunate. Especially when you twist the truth and cannot backup your allegations. Coddington hosted the Discovery Channel show American Hot Rod. NONE. "My job was to make sure that the artists on Capitol Records were happy and entertained when they were in my city. I have judged no man here, in fact I am horribly sad that Mr. Coy is going through the crap hes created for himself, his family and his community, not judging, but truly sad. Power corrupts. Anonymous #564. Robert J. You wont get hard news from them on one of the Sacred Cowsunless maybe a Ted Haggard b/c it was dude on dude. What is 1,00 yrs to God? This is awful. I am obviously perfectly aware of what I quoted and what you quoted as the posts show. If I need to defend myself, I have documentation to prove every word. He admitted to committing adultery and having an addiction to pornography. If the congregation projects their own meaning onto what moral failure meanswellthere are as many meanings as congregants and not a one really knows what happened. The problem with fame and fortune is that the temptations multiply a hundred fold, so dont be surprised if you hear of more men of renown to be found out eventually as to their secret sins. But this situation hurts my heart so much. I never been to CC but I read on many different blogs about them and I would like to share the Scripture from Psalm 2:11-12 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling. I guess Im the rookie of the bunch since this blogging stuff is my first round ever participating in such, but I have to say Im amazed and taken aback by the acidic, sarcastic, jabbing, slandering; lets say it absolute hateful jabs at one another ( just do a speed read at 476 thru 1!). When my Bible says that WHOSOEVER WILL BELIEVE IN HIM will not perish but have everlasting life then anything else is garbage! We Christians are bound by scripture to be Christ-like in these instances. Because of the way The Holy Spirit used Pastor Bobs Ministry my Wife , kids and I are all saved ! Is all sin equal to God? The Holy Bible: English Standard Version (Wheaton: Standard Bible Society, 2001), Re 5:56. But with false doctrine he said, But I have this against you, that you tolerate the woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, and she teaches and leads My bond-servants astray., If I had to choose between a repentant Bob Coy or even a Moses model pastor teaching correct doctrine or someone who is morally correct under a board that makes the decisions for the church, and yet teaching false doctrine like that Jesus only died for the Christians and not for the whole world, that there is no free will involved in salvation, when the Bible continually tells us that there is, and when part of their foundation is replacement theology, that is, that the church has replaced Israel and that the tribulation has already happened, then give me the Moses model pastor, sometimes and in many cases we have to choose the lesser of the two evils, as Jesus said, The scribes and the Pharisees have seated themselves in the chair of Moses; 3therefore all that they tell you, do and observe, but do not do according to their deeds; for they say things and do not do them. He didnt say stop hearing them.