0000024785 00000 n $365.09. Whether your equipment could or perhaps may have trouble metering it. Copyright 2000-2023 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. I had about 250 pieces of Lake City (LC) 5.56 NATO brass already prepped and ready to load. The bolt-action design affords the handloader a bit more latitude in powder selection than a gas-operated system. In short, the NATO cases had less weight and capacity variance than commercial cases. Bolt Action Shotguns; Lever Action Shotguns; Over Under Shotguns; Pump Action Shotguns; Semi Auto Shotguns; Side By Side Shotguns; Single Shot Shotguns; Other Shotguns; I worked up a load for a Barnes 55gr HP with 4198 this weekend. 0000001721 00000 n As a result, firing 5.56 NATO ammunition in a rifle with a .223 chamber can result in excessively high pressures and is generally not recommended; however, .223 ammunition can be fired in a 5.56 chamber without issues. 243, although I agree it's a port pressure issue . I had a 222 and it was.amazing in that cartridge. It worked great. HVr+S&A(U#`H `hP{z#^\EL9O$$EAL2e|j p,~E3w?#' ]/S2 YeWB4b.h^$gs:DEYxj*QKihk:I"NIGTpc=MC}S2IjSi8oo;aIf"! I tried some 4198 and can shoot clover leafs at 50 yards (with XS sights even !) What I tired of was measuring each round since, as others have noted, does not meter well in the RCBS. A forum community dedicated to all firearm owners and enthusiasts. This fast burning rifle powder gives outstanding performance in cartridges like the 222 Remington, 221 Fireball, 45-70, and 450 Marlin. JavaScript is disabled. Then back to a (published here) max load of 4227 for 300 gr jacketed bullets. Remember, I am talking about bolt rifles. IMR4198 was popular with the benchresters shooting .222 Rem chambered tack drivers' 50 to 55 grain bullets back in the '50's. trailer << /Size 86 /Info 51 0 R /Root 54 0 R /Prev 76483 /ID[<8a45f2eb061f912c269257afb89d4f83>] >> startxref 0 %%EOF 54 0 obj << /Type /Catalog /Pages 50 0 R /Metadata 52 0 R >> endobj 84 0 obj << /S 81 /Filter /FlateDecode /Length 85 0 R >> stream I just purchased 8lbs of H4198 and I read that it works great for my .308 has anyone tried this behind a Nosler 168 grain bullet? Examples include the Hornady SP SX and V-MAX, Sierra HP and BlitzKing, Nosler Varmageddon HP and Ballistic Tip, Speer TNT and Barnes Varmint Grenade. Bolt Action Rifles; Lever Action Rifles; Pump Action Rifles; Semi Auto Rifles; Single Shot Rifles; Other Rifles; Shotguns. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! I don't like how Hornady splits up the 223/5. I need about 25 rounds per "match" with 1 or 2 matches per week for league shooting. 0000001309 00000 n I load 223 in my ar with either cfe 223 for the fmj loads and blc(2) for my varmint and sp loads. Only trial and error can teach you just how much force is required to cleanly chamfer the pocket lip and not cut away too much of the case material. Not capable of the highest velocity obtainable for the cartridge, but I've used it in bolt actions for over 30 years. IMR 4198 - This fast burning rifle powder gives outstanding performance in cartridges like the .222 Remington, .221 Fireball, .45-70, and .450 Marlin. Thats not to say its just as easy to stuff a 77-grain bullet into the heaviest case youre reloading atop a full charge of BL-C(2) as it is with the lightest piece of brass in the batch. Clean and inspect the cases, lube and full-length resize/decap, clean, and inspect them again. I'm not a 223 shooter or owner however, with the two cartridges the 223 more less evolved from, the 222 Rem. Through my RCBS powder measure, it's pretty crunchy. 0000003156 00000 n When you get over 300gn I shoot 70-73gn of H4198 and will try H322 and IMR 3031 today. IMR recommends always consulting www.IMRReloading.com for the most accurate, up-to-date data. Ain't 1 in 7 but close. In spite of the .223 Remingtons name, standard bullet diameter is .224-inch. You will either find a node, or switch bullets to the 50-52 grain bullets and start over. Depending on the pressure curve generated when firing a round, an AR may or may not function satisfactorily. I weighed more than 10 different lot numbers of 5.56 cases from different manufacturers, as well as checking their water capacity. All these have offered complete penetration on broadside shots. Thats all there is to it except for a couple of additional steps that are required to prep military cases and brass. A few examples include the Ruger American (1:8), Mossberg MVP (1:9) and Thompson/Center Encore (1:10). Never a problem. Redmon adjusts COL so his test rounds will just fit the chamber and then incrementally reseats each five-round batch 0.010 deeper (up to 0.2 inch), searching for that special sweet spot. When shooting his handloads, he single loads each round in a rifle, so COL isnt limited by the rifles magazine length. or a cross section of both? I shot a lot of it in .222 back in the '70s before I graduated to .22-250. When we are sold out, we are sold out. I know that 22 grains of IMR498 and either a 50 V-Max or Blitzking has been very accurate in every rifle I've fired them in. 20.6 grains is my maximum with 52/53 grain bullets seated @ 2.250". To cut to the chase. IMR 4198 is a relatively fast burning powder for the .223 Remington. I is just kidding yaw. I keep my muzzle velocity down around 1282 FPS. Benelli Lupo Bolt-Action Rifle Line Expanded with New Chamberings, Strasser RS 14 Evolution Consul III Bolt-Action Rifle: Full Review, Kimber Hunter Pro Desolve Blak - A Lightweight Heavy Hitter, Browning BLR Lightweight '81 Stainless Takedown Lever Rifle, Mossberg Patriot Predator 6.5 PRC Rifle Review, Review: Springfield Armory M1A Loaded Rifle in 6.5 Creedmoor, RCBS ChargeMaster Lite Review: Not 'Lite' on Ability, Remington Model Seven SS HS Bolt-Action Rifle Review. The IMR 4198 POWDER is highly stable due to the presence of high-quality chemical stabilizers used in its preparation. It works good in that straight walled cartridge. Don't know how things stand today but the 5.56mm round was originally developed with a stick powder very much like IMR4198. 223 using Hornady bulk 55gr FMJ boat tail bullets over Hodgdon CFE223 or IMR 4198. I highly recommend this powder and fully recommend this company. Seem's I did try lighter bullet's but ended up with the 55gr bullet's. Both are in the 24 - 25gr range. Anyway I purchased some Nosler 168 grain bullets for target practice and was wondering. I have used it only in 444 Marlin. The hogs are dead before they hit the ground. It may still be too hot or may not meet your accuracy objective, but its not likely dangerous to your gun or you. le-de-France is densely populated and . It is a stick powder as previously mentioned. But because of its grain size being so small. I also ran the numbers on my Powley computer and was surprised when it indicated IMR 3031 and IMR 4064 were the preferred choices for lighter weight bullets. bullet weight. Ive had good luck using the RCBS crimp remover tool mounted on the companys powered case-prep center. Using the powder for low pressure cast large caliber bullet rifle loads. There is the new, commercial IMR 8208 XBR which is a wonderful powder for .223, also H-322. Pressure tested at 55,000psi as per Hodgdon's Manual 2004. Have tried 4198. They have to operate the gun safely and reliably before you can begin to evaluate their ballistic performance downrange. riflesa CZ 527 bolt action and a Sun Devil SD-15 autoloaderto use for this report, and I built a lot of handloads to shoot in both guns. I've been having excellent results with some very old IMR 4198 and Nosler 40 grain Ballistic tip bullets in my 11.5" SBR. 0000010535 00000 n I started to use IMR 8208 XBR for my AR 15 plinkers. Initially, sporting rifles chambered for the .223 Remington and mil-spec AR pattern rifles designed to fire the M193 Ball cartridge featured a 1:12 rifling twist. As I waited for chronograph conditions, I kept busy plinking my Challenge Target Shoot-n-stake 8" plate. The .223 Remington (right) was based on the .222 Remington case (left). Mag, IMR-4198 was pretty much the go to powder for a couple decades. If nothing else, this has been educational for me. I've used between 19 and 20.5 grains of IMR 4198 with mixed results. Ive used 4198 for a few different loads with .223. Ive seen a lot of his targets that further confirm the fact that accuracy in bolt actions can be improved in this manner. I take my grandson out shilooting every weekend and load up a hundred rounds of 223 every week for him. Imr. Just make sure you use IMR data not H data as these are not the same powders. I get excellent accuracy from H-4198 with 52/53 grain match bullets. Will buy more when its available. I think I got it for 45-70 but never used it. Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. Ive walked the walk, and now I want to share what Ive learned. All Shotguns; Bolt Action Shotguns; Anybody use something like a 223 bolt action to practice at the range instead of always using their larger caliber hunting rifle? He said it was loaded for his T/C pistol and he sold the pistol and forgot to give the guy the ammo. Right now I'm liking 24.5gr of RL15. I was not able to find any this week. The new Sako Finnlight II sports an innovative stock and Cerakote metal paired with the terrific 85 action. A friend gave me a little over 100 rounds of loaded .223. IMR 4198. I have come to the conclusion that if this doesn't shoot accurately in your rifle, nothing will. 0000021151 00000 n Hornady is now producing its ELD Match bullets in 52-, 73-, 75- and 80-grain weights. Occasionally, I have experimented with varying bulletseating depth to achieve better groups in my bolt actions, but the really short throat of the 223 Rem. With an Accu-Fit stock and left hand adjustable bolt, this rifle is a perfect choice for anyone! Hodgdon IMR 4198 smokeless rifle powder is just the fast burning propellant you'll want for small bore varmint shooter rifle cartridges. Since reloading for my Mini-14 starting back in the mid 80's I've had excellent results with H335, BLC-2, Win 748, Acc 2230. Good cycling out of the AR15. THANKS FOR THE GREAT PRODUCT AND SERVICE. The bullets nose profile, i.e., the ogive shape, significantly affects the cartridge overall length (COL). I had some, didn't like it. I found it easy to measure and weigh and made for consistent rounds in Mt 38-55. Is there any milsurp IMR8208 around anymore? It is a bit too fast for optimum results with heavier bullets. A few examples include the (1) Browning BLR 81, (2) Thompson/Center G2 Contender, (3) Ruger No. __________________ 0000012032 00000 n Great powder. We'll see. If just a pound , I'd give up on it and just get some H-335 and never look back . Powder For Sale Northern Indiana (South Bend area). All this guy needs for brush hunting deer in Maine ! 3298 do you have a reloading book? Current production IMR-4198 should be Canadian-made and can cycle most AR15's when loaded to maximum loads. Just a note that if you research using IMR or H4198 you will find it's the most problematic powder for reloading AR's. Starting at 20.7g, and going up in .5g i. [ARCHIVED THREAD] - 223 loads with IMR 4198. Introduced in 1965 with the .444 Marlin cartridge, the Model 444 was the most powerful lever action of its day. Item Number: 18607. I loaded ammunition with a variety of bullets, including the Hornady 55- and 60-grain Spire Points (w/o cannelure), 55-grain GMX, Nosler 60-grain Partition, 55-grain Trophy Bonded and Barnes 50-, 53- and 55-grain Triple-Shock X-Bullet, with each producing excellent results. HV6+.cE) Y$Y8XdO,MFH]0`[Gu%/|m`n`Zh>wOO=||n|nq+4Lv+b,;awwks[GcFx8X3X3;EOS,.ca%?BCAx>9pa. I also built some specialty 223 Rem. Edit Product. Other bullets are designed to decrease drag and help extend the effective range of the cartridge, making them better choices for bucking wind and hunting in open country. We believe the 2nd Amendment is best defended through grass-roots organization, education, and advocacy centered around individual gun owners. But maybe there other members who disagree. I use this powder in my Grendel load development with great success. Let me ask you this. Ordered this to reload 444 marlin. This has shot one hole groups for years. Dont know about the Canada made or the. It shoots good groups and cycles fine with my AR but after I'm done I'll go back to TAC 2 Reply textbooknarco 2 yr. ago 0000012054 00000 n match bullet. Good old IMR 4895 had published loads for each of these cartridges. I worked up to this charge as should you! I like these loads for shooting hogs out to 200 yards, these are head shots. 0000006732 00000 n . Some swage, while others cut the pocket rim material out of the way. Im slowly running out of powder and Im not really sold on the CFE223 powder although I did have 3 pounds during this last round.